They have become such a ubiquitous tool used by the UN and NATO to intervene in international crises, that it seems like no-fly zones have been around forever. But it was only the 1990s that the first one was enacted and they've only be used twice more since then. Learn about this peculiar military tool with Chuck and Josh.
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Josh and Chuck dive into the surprisingly recent history of no-fly zones, exploring how this modern military tactic only emerged in the early 1990s despite planes being used in warfare for decades. The hosts trace the evolution from the Wright Brothers' rejected proposals to the War Department through to the first-ever no-fly zone established over Iraq in 1991, followed by similar operations in Bosnia and Libya. They break down how these zones actually work, from UN authorization to enforcement strategies, while examining both their successes in protecting civilians and their limitations in preventing all atrocities.
Behind Enemy Lines
2001
1h 46m
★ 6.4
"Scott McGrady, you remember him? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Owen Wilson. — They were discussing the real pilot Scott O'Grady being shot down in Bosnia, referencing the movie starring Owen Wilson."
— Josh
"I revised a classic movie quote into heck. Yeah, network. — Chuck referenced the famous line from Network when Josh said he was "mad as heck and not gonna take it anymore.""
— Chuck
Poltergeist
1982
1h 54m
★ 7.2
"Do you remember AOL instant messenger and the dial-up sound like poltergeist? — This was mentioned in an advertisement for another podcast comparing dial-up internet sounds to the movie Poltergeist."
Silver Linings Playbook
2012
2h 2m
★ 7.1
"So Reliance Playbook he didn't like. I thought it was okay. — Josh mentioned Silver Linings Playbook when discussing director David O. Russell's other films."
— Josh
Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip
2006
★ 7.4
"somebody who didn't like Studio 60, who doesn't like newsroom — Josh mentioned Studio 60 as another Aaron Sorkin show he didn't like, while making an exception for The West Wing."
— Josh
"What's that Aaron Sorkin show? I don't like Aaron Sorkin. News hour? That's it. — Josh was comparing Network to Aaron Sorkin's show The Newsroom and mentioned he doesn't like it."
— Josh
"I liked West Wing. I didn't watch it. You never watched West Wing? — Josh was recommending The West Wing to Chuck as an example of good Aaron Sorkin writing."
— Josh
This American Life
2007
★ 8.7
"the actual content of the show is more like this American life — A student mentioned in a listener email that their podcast project was more like This American Life in format."
Three Kings
1999
1h 54m
★ 6.6
"If you're interested in this kind of thing, check out three kings. — Josh recommended Three Kings as a movie about the aftermath of Gulf War uprisings they were discussing."
— Josh
Uncommon Valor
1983
1h 40m
★ 0.0
"To Gene Hackman. Picked up. Yeah, Gene Hackman was like, we're going to get you out of there. — Chuck referenced Uncommon Valor when talking about Gene Hackman's role in rescue missions, both real and fictional."
— Chuck
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