Nov 16 2024

Selects: The Cleveland Torso Murders

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During the depths of the Great Depression, Cleveland’s most vulnerable and destitute residents were prey for one of history’s most horrific serial killers. The killer’s identity remains a mystery to this day. Josh and Chuck take you through what's known in this classic episode.

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This Stuff You Should Know episode dives deep into one of America's most gruesome and unsolved serial killer cases: the Cleveland Torso Murders of the 1930s. The hosts explore how a mysterious killer brutally dismembered at least a dozen victims, primarily targeting the homeless and poor living in Depression-era shanty towns, all while famous law enforcer Eliot Ness led a massive but ultimately unsuccessful investigation. As the body count climbs and the city descends into panic, Ness becomes increasingly desperate—resorting to burning down entire hobo camps and illegally detaining suspects—in his obsessive hunt for a suspect many believe was a wealthy, well-connected doctor with military medical training.


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Barton Fink
Barton Fink
1991 1h 57m
★ 7.5
"You just don't normally see that in a sex killer. You see one or the other and it's usually the sex that the person is oriented to or the victims. And then, you know, just to kind of to cap that point off, the killer left victims 11 and 12 within a few yards of one another on a dump, like a trash dump. And one was a woman, victim 11 was a woman, and victim 12 was a man. Should we take a break? We should, because Cleveland doesn't know it at the time, but those of us looking backwards through history can tell you that this was the last canonical victims in August of 1938. So the killer, as far as anybody knows, is done. That's right. And most of the grizzly stuff is out of the way. And we'll be back to reveal the famous investigator right after this. Hey, I'm Lance Bass, host of the new iHeart podcast Frosted Tips with Lance Bass. The hardest thing can be knowing who to turn to when questions arise or times get tough, or you're at the end of the road. Okay, I see what you're doing. Do you ever think to yourself, what advice would Lance Bass and my favorite boy bands give me in this situation? If you do, you've come to the right place because I'm here to help. This, I promise you. Oh, God. Seriously, I swear. And you won't have to send an SOS because I'll be there for you. Oh, Man. And so my husband, Michael. Um, hey, that's me. Yeah, we know that Michael and a different hot sexy teen crush boy band are each week to guide you through life step by step. Oh, not another one. Kids, relationships, life in general can get messy. You may be thinking, this is the story of my life. Just stop now. If so, tell everybody, yeah, everybody about my new podcast and make sure to listen. So we'll never ever have to say bye, bye, bye. Listen to Frosted Tips with Lance Bass on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Mangesh Atikala. And to be honest, I don't believe in astrology. But from the moment I was born, it's been a part of my life in India. It's like smoking. You might not smoke, but you're going to get second hand astrology. And lately, I've been wondering if the universe has been trying to tell me to stop running and pay attention. Because maybe there is magic in the stars, if you're willing to look for it. So I rounded up some friends and we dove in and let me tell you, it got weird fast. Tantric curses, major league baseball teams, canceled marriages, K-pop. But just when I thought I had to handle on this sweet and curious show about astrology, my whole world can crash down. Situation doesn't look good. There is risk to father. And my whole view on astrology, it changed. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, I think your ideas are going to change too. Listen to Skyline Drive and the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. It sounds like a Barton Fink kind of thing. — Josh references Barton Fink when speculating about which Coen Brothers film might have featured a dog with a body part." — Josh
Cold in July
Cold in July
2014 R 1h 49m
★ 6.5
"Did you see cold in july? No, what is that? It's a little bit like a straw dogs type story. — Josh asks if Chuck has seen Cold in July and describes its tone and casting." — Josh
Crazy, Not Insane
Crazy, Not Insane
2020 1h 57m
★ 7.2
"I want to recommend this great, great documentary. And forgive me if I'm repeating myself here, but it's called Crazy Not Insane. It's an HBO documentary about this doctor, Dr. Dorothy Otno Lewis. — Josh recommends the HBO documentary about Dr. Dorothy Otnow Lewis and her research on serial killers." — Josh
Dexter
Dexter
2006
★ 8.2
"That would be a big clue if they had some murder room, uh, Dexter style. Sure. That's a dead giveaway every time. That's coming back, by the way. — Josh references Dexter in discussing the killer's likely murder location, and Chuck mentions the show is being revived." — Josh
Kolchak: The Night Stalker
Kolchak: The Night Stalker
1974
★ 7.6
"There's definitely a movie, it might not have been Coen Brothers, where a dog shows up with a body part in its mouth, probably more than one movie. But this dog shows up in its mouth, and Morello goes to Sandusky, and it turns out that the leg was actually surgically removed during a real surgery, not a serial killer surgery. — Josh references the Night Stalker docuseries when discussing head trauma in serial killers like Richard Ramirez." — Josh
Miller's Crossing
Miller's Crossing
1990 R 1h 55m
★ 7.4
"Or I might be thinking of the kids who ripped the toupee off the guy in Miller's Crossing in the alleyway. — Chuck references Miller's Crossing while trying to recall a Coen Brothers film with a comedic body part scene." — Chuck
Six Feet Under
Six Feet Under
2001
★ 8.1
"We're just now finishing six feet under again. So I'm always happy to see him again, but I'll give it a go. — Chuck mentions they are rewatching Six Feet Under, which features Michael C. Hall, relevant to discussing Dexter's revival." — Chuck
Straw Dogs
Straw Dogs
1971 1h 56m
★ 7.2
"It's a little bit like a straw dogs type story. But he's like having a battle Don Johnson. — Josh compares the movie Cold in July to Straw Dogs in terms of tone and plot elements." — Josh
The 'Burbs
The 'Burbs
1989 PG 1h 42m
★ 6.8
"Although I remember one of the neighbors lost his toupee in the Burbs and they thought it was evident to this murder. — Chuck recalls a scene from The Burbs involving a toupee mistaken for evidence in a murder." — Chuck
The Lighthouse
The Lighthouse
2019 R 1h 49m
★ 7.5
"Or watch The Lighthouse. It's probably better. God, it's so good. — Chuck recommends The Lighthouse as an alternative film to watch for sustained dread." — Chuck
The Untouchables
The Untouchables
1987 1h 59m
★ 7.8
"It's my favorite thing when you play koi. It was Mr. Elliott Ness. It's very famous for being the head of the Intouchables, for putting Al Capone behind bars. — Chuck reveals Elliott Ness as the famous investigator who led the investigation into the Cleveland torso murders, referencing Ness's famous work with The Untouchables." — Chuck
Torso
Torso
1973 R 1h 33m
★ 6.6
"I didn't see, I haven't read it, but there's a graphic novel and maybe it's a series called Torso that is about all this. — Josh mentions a graphic novel called Torso about the Cleveland torso murders, noting it could be a good basis for a film adaptation." — Josh

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