Jul 11 2023

Birth Order: So nice, we did it twice

61 min 2 movies discussed
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This is a very special episode, the first one we've ever fully recorded a second time and decided to release. Why? Because it's good and a little different and we thought you'd enjoy this unheard of double dose. So enjoy!

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# Stuff You Should Know: Birth Order (Take Two)

This episode takes a fascinating dive into the science of birth order — why we think firstborns are natural leaders, middle children are peacemakers, and youngest siblings are adventurous rebels. Josh and Chuck trace the concept from Victorian-era researcher Francis Galton through influential psychologist Alfred Adler, who developed groundbreaking theories about how your position in the family shapes your personality and life strategy. They explore how these ideas became pop psychology gospel, survived a major scientific takedown in the 1980s, and got a surprising rehabilitation by researcher Frank Sulloway, who argues birth order is actually a proxy for real family dynamics like physical power and status struggles. Fair warning: the hosts grapple with how well this theory actually holds up under scrutiny, especially when you start examining famous historical figures through this lens.


Movies Discussed

Family Ties
Family Ties
1982
★ 7.2
"like Alex, P. Keaton, young Republican type, they're gonna go the exact opposite way — Chuck references Alex P. Keaton from Family Ties as an example of an older sibling whose personality a younger sibling might rebel against." — Chuck
The Brady Bunch
The Brady Bunch
1969
★ 6.7
"it was even on the Brady bunch. Like, Jan was clearly the middle child — Josh uses the Brady Bunch as an example of how birth order is commonly understood in popular culture, noting Jan's middle child characteristics." — Josh

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