Nov 16 2023

Diners: The Most American Establishment?

53 min 12 movies discussed
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Diners may just be the most American establishment there is. They were born in the USA, thanks to European immigrants, and they only exist in the USA, unless it's a kitschy homage. So break open that 12-page menu and order up.

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# Summary

In this episode, Josh and Chuck explore the surprisingly fascinating history of diners, tracing their evolution from late-night food wagons in the 1870s to the iconic roadside restaurants we know today. They discover how diners transformed from working-class lunch spots into suburban family destinations after World War II, and uncover the surprising fact that Greek immigrants came to dominate the diner industry—at one point owning about 90% of diners across America. The episode also covers how chains like Waffle House, IHOP, and Denny's challenged traditional diners while actually helping preserve the diner concept through nostalgic revivals in popular culture.


Movies Discussed

Bad Binoculars
Bad Binoculars
2017 28m
★ 8.0
"In 2017, when they, when David Lynch came out with the new twin peaks, they actually paid to restore that diner to its original appearance — Josh explains that David Lynch restored the Double R Diner for the 2017 Twin Peaks revival series." — Josh
Diner
Diner
1982 1h 50m
★ 6.8
"There was the movie Diner, of course, Barry Levinson's movie from 1982. Great movie. — Josh discusses Barry Levinson's 1982 film Diner, set in 1959 Baltimore, as a notable diner movie that inspired Tarantino." — Josh
Grease
Grease
1978 1h 50m
★ 7.4
"the image that you have of diners, like popular diners that you see in like a movie, like Grease or something like that — Josh references Grease as an example of a movie that solidified the popular image of 1950s diners in American culture." — Josh
Happy Days
Happy Days
1974
★ 7.6
"the image that you have of diners, like popular diners that you see in like a movie, like Grease or something like that, or Happy Days — Josh mentions Happy Days as a TV show that helped solidify the popular image of diners through 1950s nostalgia." — Josh
Invasion U.S.A.
Invasion U.S.A.
1985 1h 47m
★ 5.7
"when they rebuilt Avondale Mall near me because Chuck Norris drove a pickup through it in Invasion USA — Josh humorously mentions Chuck Norris driving a pickup through a mall in the action film Invasion U.S.A." — Josh
Pulp Fiction
Pulp Fiction
1994 2h 34m
★ 8.5
"The great diner in Pulp Fiction, of course, is the Hawthorne Grill in LA, which is now an auto zone. — Chuck references the Hawthorne Grill diner scene from Pulp Fiction, noting that the actual location is now an auto zone." — Chuck
Reservoir Dogs
Reservoir Dogs
1992 1h 39m
★ 8.1
"A lot of Tarantino has a lot of diner stuff that Reservoir Dogs opening scene. — Chuck mentions Reservoir Dogs' opening scene as an example of diner dialogue and banter in Tarantino's work." — Chuck
Seinfeld
Seinfeld
1989
★ 8.3
"if you've ever watched Seinfeld, that's what they use is the establishing shot for their monks coffee shop — Josh references Tom's Restaurant in Manhattan being used as the exterior shot for the fictional Monk's Cafe in Seinfeld." — Josh
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
2023 PG 2h 20m
★ 8.3
"Thanks to that 50s nostalgia of the 70s, like Grease, Happy Days. Sha Na Na. — Chuck lists Sha Na Na as another 1970s show that contributed to 1950s nostalgia and helped revive diner culture." — Chuck
The Sopranos
The Sopranos
1999
★ 8.7
"If you've ever watched Sopranos, it's set in New Jersey and they're in diners like all the time. — Josh notes that The Sopranos, set in New Jersey, frequently features diner scenes reflecting the state's diner culture." — Josh
Twin Peaks
Twin Peaks
1990 TV-MA
★ 8.3
"the Marti Cafe in North Bend, Washington, which stood in as the double R diner in Twin Peaks — Chuck discusses how the Marti Cafe served as the Double R Diner in the TV series Twin Peaks." — Chuck
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me
1992 R 2h 15m
★ 7.4
"It went back to the real diner for the movie Fire Walk With Me. — Josh mentions that the Twin Peaks film Fire Walk with Me was shot at the actual North Bend diner location." — Josh

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