Mar 15 2022

Operation Northwoods: The False Flag Op That Never Was

55 min 6 movies discussed
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There is presumably some very dark, very depressing stuff in the annals of America’s secret history. But perhaps the darkest classified document to see the light of day was the memo that called for faked attacks on the US to justify invading Cuba.

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# Summary

In this episode, Josh and Chuck dive into Operation Northwoods, a deeply disturbing Cold War-era plan that shows just how far the U.S. military was willing to go to justify invading Cuba. After Castro took power in 1959 and aligned with the Soviets, American officials became obsessed with removing him—so obsessed that General Lyman Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually drafted a memo proposing false flag operations to trick the American public into supporting an invasion. The hosts walk through some of these jaw-dropping proposals, like sinking ships, staging fake airplane attacks, and even considering the use of fake Cuban uniforms to make it look like Cuba had attacked U.S. military installations.


Movies Discussed

Apocalypse Now
Apocalypse Now
1979 2h 27m
★ 8.3
"It's like that one scene at night that battle, the night battle in Apocalypse now. — Chuck used a reference to the famous nighttime battle scene to describe how star shells light up the night sky during wartime." — Chuck
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
1964 1h 35m
★ 8.1
"I'm glad that, that Livia mentioned Dr. Strangelove, which had not come out yet. — Josh noted the similarity between the absurd names and ideas in Operation Northwoods and those in Kubrick's satirical film about nuclear war." — Josh
JFK
JFK
1991 3h 9m
★ 7.6
"We even further would have no idea whatsoever that Operation Northwood ever happened was ever proposed. If it wasn't for Oliver Stone's 1992 movie or 1991 movie JFK. — Josh credited Oliver Stone's JFK film with bringing Operation Northwoods to public attention, which led to declassification of documents." — Josh
No Exit
No Exit
2022 R 1h 36m
★ 6.8
"I finally saw, I got to see my niece's movie that I've been talking nonstop about, No Exit. — Josh discussed watching his niece's performance in this thriller film and recommended it to viewers on Hulu." — Josh
Top Gun
Top Gun
1986 1h 50m
★ 7.1
"MiGs, which was, I guess, the Soviet fighter jets. I saw Top Gun. I know this stuff. — Chuck jokingly referenced Top Gun to demonstrate his familiarity with Soviet MiG fighter jets mentioned in Operation Northwoods plans." — Chuck
Wag the Dog
Wag the Dog
1997 1h 37m
★ 6.9
"Remember that movie, Wag the Dog? Oh, sure. They would probably be whacked afterward. — Josh referenced the film about fabricating a war as a media distraction while discussing Operation Northwoods false flag scenarios." — Josh

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