In the 19th century, typhoid was considered a disease of the lower classes. When an outbreak occurred in wealthy Oyster Bay, New York, a mystery was afoot. Tune in to learn how this event began an ongoing debate over public safety versus civil rights.
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# Typhoid Mary: Disease, Civil Rights, and Public Health
This episode dives into the fascinating and troubling true story of Mary Mallon, an Irish immigrant cook in early 1900s New York who became the first confirmed healthy carrier of typhoid fever. Josh and Chuck explore how a brilliant epidemiologist's discovery of her condition led to her becoming "Typhoid Mary," a woman quarantined against her will on a remote island hospital, raising urgent questions about where individual civil liberties end and public health protection begins. The hosts examine the perfect storm of a headstrong woman, poor communication about emerging germ theory, and the powerful Department of Health's authority to forcibly quarantine people without due process, all while unpacking one of history's most compelling cases of how science, society, and personal freedom collide.
Coming to America
1988
1h 57m
★ 6.9
"It's like coming to America. Who operates a cab here in Atlanta. Ain't none but ultra-perm. — Josh references the movie while discussing Mary's job prospects declining to laundry work."
— Josh
Contagion
2011
1h 46m
★ 6.6
"Have you seen it? I have not. You did the other night, right? It was good. — Chuck and Josh discuss the film as it relates to the Typhoid Mary episode's themes about public health."
— Chuck
Gangs of New York
2002
2h 48m
★ 7.3
"Daniel Day Lewis was walking around New York with a meat cleaver overacting a little bit, in my opinion. — Josh references the film as context for discussing 19th century New York and horse transportation."
— Josh
Les Misérables
2012
2h 38m
★ 7.3
"This is like Les Miserables. And exactly, it is very much like that. — Josh compares Soper's involvement in tracking down Mary to the pursuit theme of Les Misérables."
— Josh
Shutter Island
2010
2h 18m
★ 8.2
"what's the de Caprio? Shutter Island. — Chuck compares North Brother Island's abandoned hospital to the setting of Shutter Island."
— Chuck
The Cannonball Run
1981
1h 35m
★ 6.2
"Go listen to Cannonball Run. Yeah, that's a good one. No mistakes. — Josh jokingly recommends the movie as having no mistakes, unlike the Moon podcast."
— Josh
"very much like the Garbage Man that Homer Simpson envisions in the Garbage Commissioner episode — Josh compares the White Wings sanitation workers to Homer Simpson's garbage commissioner fantasy."
— Josh
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